Nothing More - Pyre Lyrics

I enjoy the ideas put forth, but Watts seems to completely botch his counter to atheism. "Then you feel terrible after... after that." Your ideas that you're a machine are a machine? Your sense of self is intrinsic within an idea of a god? Tsk. Tsk. You lost that debate with yourself, Mr. Watts.

Beautifully put. But may I present a counter? God exists. When you go back and look at the start of creation. You will find that the theories put forth all have one single inconsistency in common. How did this 'genesis' come to be? They cannot answer because how can a universe expand from nothing? How can it explode and bring to bear this life we now live? How can primordial ooze rearrange itself into life? How can life even exist? These questions have no answer beyond the existance of a creator. Someone who is omnipotent and omnipresent. Someone waiting for anyone to notice him and thank him for their life to ask for help. You don not need to believe it. In the end that point is irrelevant. Just as choosing to believe that morality is subjective rather than objective is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. In the end what is will continue to be so and what is not will remain not. The belief in a creator is not a mark against ones intelligence. To keep a closed mind and refuse the possibility of one, however is.

I can't vouch for the Big Bang and all that. I'm not that sciency, but without a doubt we have all sorts of easily observable evidence of basic building blocks of life and evolution.

Well you have a point with the creation of everything. That cant be explained otherwise. But the primordial ooze argument has other explanations.

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Alan Watts is his name.

I know the audio is from a lecture by Alan Watts, but does anyone know which lecture by any chance?

Eternal Gamer nature of consciousness

I have read from "People can't be talked out of illusions.

If a person believes that the earth is flat, you can't talk him out of that, he knows that it's flat.
He'll go down to the window and see that its obvious, it looks flat.
So the only way to convince him that it isn't is to say...
"Well... let's go and find the edge"

...to two destructive, last string addicts. Within days they changed their lives. I love to believe this song inspired them to do so. It was after so many failed years, multiple facilities and even family members...i could not think of anything else....and then there was NothingMore.

Im that child from Mars

Wise words. But the real beauty is to explore help and proceed by any means necessary with this life. To experience the joy, to overcome all and help many and to love them all even if they do you wrong.

mmm quisiera que existiera una traducida al español, no entiendo del todo si se encuentra en inglés :(

WOW! really puts the soul into perspective.

But aren't you a genetic machine anyway? God or not?

You guys should listen to some Alan Watts ChillStep. It will give you a good idea of what he is talking about

I'm an atheist, and the first part of this video where he says that if you dont have religion or a god you are nothing is complete bullshit. you can live your life happily without the guidance of some god.

The context is talking about a person who was religious and is no longer. For people who believe in god, particularly the christian god, their entire identity, and sense of self becomes tied to their relationship with god. So going from that to rejecting it, they end up losing who they are.

If you never really believed in god, or always questioned it's existence, or never had your identity placed in him, then this is rather moot and irrelevant to put weight to as it doesn't pertain to you and your experiences.

You might be able to happily live here but you won't be able to live happily in eternity in hell. God gave us a standard of righteousness to live by called the ten commandments, or the law. Anytime we are living contrary to the standard that God has required us to live by is considered sin. The disobedience of God's law, which is punishable by death. Sin brings death. the wages of sin are death the Word says. Disobeying an eternal God brings an eternal punishment, Hell.  Hell is the place of punishment your spirit will end up for all eternity for that disobedience against a Holy God. A place of fire and brimstone and weeping and gnashing of teeth, forever.   So God by the law revealed how we should live before a Holy God. Now ALL stand guilty before God with no way to justify ourselves because of this knowledge. For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. No one can live up to the standard that God has set for us. Since we are guilty and sin brings death, the only thing to fix our separation from God through sin is the death of something innocent. A substitute, A sacrifice to take our place. That sacrifice has to be PERFECT or the payment isn't permanent. God is Just so he must bring justice on the ones who break His law but God is also loving and wants to provide a way out. Clearly since the only one to meet God's standard is God, God goes Himself as Jesus.  God became a man, Jesus Christ, and lived the sinless life we couldn't. Jesus, being in the form of God and equal with God came in the righteousness of God, Being perfect in Holiness He fulfilled those requirements for us and willingly became the substitute for the wrath of the Father which was met to be poured out on us, the ones who could not fulfill the Father's standard of holiness. He took all the Full Force of the wrath of God for all the evil that we are, and He bore it. He took God's punishment, becoming our sin and dying with it. Jesus died in our place, taking our sin upon Himself.  The Lord placed on Him the iniquity of us all.Because a perfect sacrifice was the only way to pay a debt for a people as sinful as we are. Someone had to die, so he did it Himself. Cause He wanted us back for Himself. He became payment for a people who could not redeem themselves. Then in three days Jesus rose from the grave by His own power, proving He was God in the flesh and that He had succeeded in paying our debt of sin. Defeating death and the grave meant the redemption was guaranteed, For all who believe. By Jesus paying our penalty in death He frees us from the sin that so easily ensnared us by giving us His righteousness, the Holy Spirit by which He overcome the sin of this world, but only to those who believe in Him and trust in His work of the cross.   All you have to do to be declared innocent is Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. That His death was enough to pay the penalty for your sins and live a lifestyle of repentance. Which means to change one's mind. To turn away from sin, God makes you a new man in Christ, He is the one who regenerates your person to make you a New Creature. With a new heart and new mind who hates to do sin, and to displease God. When we do sin, which we all do, we will repent and ask God for His mercy and Grace to help us to never do it again. Through the Father's plan Jesus has restored us to a proper relationship with the Father! Now we are Justified by Faith apart from the deeds of the law and are no longer called sinners, but SAINTS!  It is the goodness of God that leads you to REPENTANCE! God is real, and whether you believe in Him or not, you will stand before Him. It comes down to you believe on Jesus or you die and go to hell. There's no way around it and no way to sugarcoat it for you. It's one or the other. You see, Jesus had to be God or nobody is saved.

The Artist Bros You religious people are truly evil on another plane. You claim that not following something there is no proof for is punishable by death? Really? What happened to Jesus loves you garbage?

You obviously feel hostile to the world as Alan says

Reading too much into it. Right after he says "Then you commit suicide" he says "Now I want to propose another idea altogether." He's speaking through the perspective of those he's talking about, not his personal view. Trust me, there's a lot more to it than what appears on the surface.

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nope 2:51

nope 0:00

that cry after he says 'if you're smart you commit suicide' is so well placed in this song I absolutely love that line

does anyone know where the "neurological trap" quote comes from?

+Isaac Davis i already knew this. ive read his work. i would like to know which lecture this specific quote is from.

I believe it's all from the same lecture. I found it titled as "suicide"

https://youtu.be/CtH2JyQAXrs

Well that hit me like a truck.

+Fionn van der Noll Same :0

God damn, I know right?

This is the deepest thing i have ever read,
thanks for putting music to it and sharing it with the world!

Drake Morency this is the actual lyrics that go with the song

love this <333

Alan Watts. <3

Volume high, headphones on. Eyes closed.

+KILL3Rjessica
Embrace: open mind.

KILL3Rjessica boom 💥

This poem deserves the Nobel Prize!!!

It's a lecture from a philosopher named Alan Watts. Search his name on youtube and you'll get hundreds of results.

Thanks NickRomeo, actually, I realized this right after writing this comment ;). Anyway, I still believe it deserves a Nobel Prize :p

I love Nothing More, especially this song. Thank you for the great quality ^.^

pretty rythem